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Kevin Wolf

I think I know - oh - six or seven hundred people who could learn a little from Mr Shawn. (Myself included.)

Brian

Great story. On the other hand, there are people so without grace or civility...

I had one interview where the gentlemen instantly cued into a college semester where I struggled...

"What, did you flunk out?" he asked me quite directly.

Speaking of dying from embarassment, at the First Christmas Party at the First Job I had after college. The party was held in a restaurant my boss had designed, down to the markings on teh restrooms, which were a quite simple metal "M" and "W", essentially vertical mirror images of each other.

Now, you need to keep in mind that I had very recently learned that my boss had a mild form of dyslexia, and not been able to hip my wife to the fact. I was talking with my boss and several associates when she came back from the restrooms, exclaiming brightly "Interesting toilet signage. I bet it's a problem for dyslexics!"

The others in the group were kind of slackjawed in embarassment, I cringed quite visible, I'm sure, and my boss just shot a laserlike stare at my wife (he was never sure when someone was cracking a joke). I just grabbed her arm and went to freshen our drinks.

blue girl

Hi Brian, now see -- that was a perfect time for your boss to have been a gentleman -- but, I'm not sure most people have it in them to react graciously.

I think it stems from insecurity -- make sure to let everyone know how much smarter you are than them -- and it'll make you feel superior. But, in fact, that behavior just keeps feeding the insecurity.

Although I can't claim to be civil 100% of the time, I still think it's such rotten human behavior. And so transparent, too!

Neddie Jingo

Have you been following the minor imbroglio in the New Yorker about the "William Shawn" character played by Bob Balaban in the Capote movie? Sons Wallace and (cough, mumble -- Gromit? Alvin? Theodore?) take a Dim View indeed, and Harper Lee wrote a sightly admonishing letter in the latest ish. So delish.

I once nearly tripped Saul Bellow down the stairs at the West 4th Street subway stop -- does that count for anything? He turned around and kneed me in the nuts.

Jennifer

Wow! To be kneed in the nuts by Saul Bellow! Why that's better than an autographed first edition!

Yes, we could all be a little more civil just because it is the decent thing to do, but if not for that then because we will all make flubs and we hope to be met with civilty instead of treated as prey that has just exposed its jugular.

RonzoniRigatoni

Anne Fadiman's been a favorite of mine since I first met her on the pages of Civilization Magazine. I dropped my subscription when they quit carrying her column. Haven't seen much of her lately, tho'

Michael Bains

My mom, good Liberal Democrat, er um, Catholic, that she was (oh! and is,) considered Ms. pornography.

Or at least she thought she was supposed to ... I could never tell on that Catholic stuff.

Kudos to Mr. Shawn.

papa Bill

I find that when a woman calls me "civil" it's very similar to being called "nice". In either case, I don't get laid. (I know, that's a very uncivil outlook)

Jennifer

papa bill- I seem to recall my not-yet-boyfriend, not-yet-husband saying that when I said he was seemed safe... needless to say, he did indeed get laid. Sometimes a nice man or a safe man is a nice and civil place to fall.

blue girl

Papa Bill,

I think a lot of guys don't want to be called "nice" or "Sweety's" because they want to be seen as "bad boys" or "rebels" or something and they think that'll make girls like them more.

Nice girls like civil, nice guys -- throw in a tiny, tiny bit of badness -- and you just might have the perfect guy.

Pepper

What a nice man. See, being civil isn't a sign of incompetence!

Boy, do I know how she feels. I have trouble pronouncing words because of a hearing issue, and I can't quite produce sounds the way I should. It's served me well - I cut anyone who makes fun of the way I talk out of my life, or I at least avoid them. My friends who can laugh at it a little or at least politely correct me are the ones worth keeping.

papa Bill

OK, so here's me being civil (no easy task). You and Jennifer have me partially convinced. I'll let you know how my new personality works out after a week or so.

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