Watching a Genesis tribute segment on a VH1 music awards show over the weekend, I had to suffer through a Genesis cover by the group, Keane. Now, Keane's ok in my book. I really like some of their songs. Even saw them perform my favorite one in New York City last summer. That was magic. But, they sounded like a high school band covering Genesis.
Then, to my surprise, I learned before the commercial break that Genesis would actually be performing a couple of songs on the show. Yippeeee! I couldn't wait.
Robin Williams came out after the break and in his crazy, amphetamine-ridden way, introduced Genesis. I wish I could tell you what he said, but I didn't understand even one word.
They first played, "Turn It On Again."
I told The Skimmer, "I know Billy Pilgrim's right! They're going to open with this song when we see them in September!"
The Skimmer just nodded his head. He's used to my rambling on and on about Genesis over the years. Poor guy.
And then I noticed how sluggish the song was. No energy! Oh no! They stink now! The concert's going to be terrible. Phil's not moving! What's going on.
I sat on the couch in despair, hugging a pillow tightly to my chest, waiting for the next number.
"Oh no, Skimmer! It's 'No Son of Mine!' I'm not sure we should go to this concert! I have to talk to BP!"
Billy Pilgrim likes "No Son of Mine". (Pa. Shaw.) I think my feelings can best be put into words by someone else's words. The Uncanny Canadian remarked on this post:
I love that genesis song and I'm almost completely ignorant of the good music that genesis made, their latter-day suckiness having mentally scarred me. Los Endos has everything that made prog rock so great, the wanky guitar stuff that PP hates, super chromatic woodwind sweeps, and a sense of universal importance. How I love love love the wank.
Los Endos has everything that made prog rock so great, the wanky guitar stuff that PP hates, super chromatic woodwind sweeps, and a sense of universal importance.
Yes! That sense of universal importance! Of which "No Son of Mine" is sorely lacking. Sorely.
See, billy? "No Son of Mine" mentally scarred both me and The Uncanny Canadian. Might even explain UC's 10 Day Rule.
I went upstairs and surfed over to Empire of the Senseless. BP had written a pretty lengthy post on music, which I read, but kind of ignored, because I had to tell him of my Genesis concert fear. Plus, I am the Queen of Off Topic Island. A title Jeddie Ningo bestowed upon me long ago. (In my defense, he was probably writing about women's behinds or lace-up shoes or whatever else it is he thinks he should be writing more on these days to stay relevant in Virginia politics.)
I can't help it if my mind wonders and I feel I must tell you all things.
I left this comment at BP's place:
First of all, I was thrilled to see that you spelled *believe* like this:
Ha. Ha. Ha.
Secondly, I promise I won't whine and cry continually for the next few months, but you know what? I was watching some awards show on VH1 the other night and they honored Genesis. Genesis actually came out and played a couple of tunes.
Guess what they started with?
You were right.
"Turn It On Again."
"No Son of Mine"
Or whatever it's called.
PLUS! BP, Phil just kind of stood there. He wasn't his theatrical self.
I'm really gonna try not to complain and worry. But, you know what?
I'm afraid I'm going to ruin one of my best childhood/early adulthood memories by going to this concert in Sept.
BP responded in kind with a whole new post:
Did Everybody Just Get Old?
Heyhey. look at this. Another post, albeit music-related.
Off the top, Glue Birl whines in the comments:
Secondly, I promise I won't whine and cry continually for the next few months...
(And he pasted my entire comment in his post.) And continued:
I saw that too.
It's of small consolation that they started with "Turn It On Again", obvious though it is.
I STILL like No Son Of Mine, BG. (I'm mentally scarred. BP's mentally damaged. -- Editor's note.)
Phil not being theatrical? Fine by me. If he was an actor, he'd be a total scenery-chewer. I did notice, however, that he relaxed more when he went behind the drums- he still thinks of himself as a drummer.
What I noticed: Daryl Stuermer, rockin the bass way over on the left. And Chester, of course. But I also noticed some of the light setups, wondering if that was what we're gonna see.
You see, BG, you're gonna have to take it up with Zelmo - he saw the last tour, and has always reported on it favorably, specifically the stage presentation. It would, of course, have been heavy on the "We Can't Dance" numbers, which are mainly of the sort you decry.
Yes! I decry them!
I think you may be forgetting, though, that the Genesis show is a whole presentation, and it builds, along with the theatrics, over the course of the show. I don't think the VH1 crapola was particularly their venue. I'm sure they were limited in what they could play, and how long. I can't imagine that they had time to get their own feeling into the music, and they were constrained by an unfamiliar staging (see, normally, I'd criticize a band that can't just get over it and get the job done, but Genesis have always been more reserved and studious)
But finally, if you're really afeared, you just send those tix on to me and I'll let you know it was worse than your fevered imaginings.
Yes. I did notice Phil perk up when he ran back and sat down at the drums. He's great on the drums. I saw Eric Clapton once, probably in the mid-eighties with Phil on drums. I had second row seats and Mr. Clapton was right in front of me for most of the show. I watched the sweat drip from his cheek up close while he kept his cigarette under the top string in the neck of his guitar. Now that I think of it, I really don't remember that much of Phil. But, always figured if Eric Clapton had him playing drums, then he must've been a pretty good drummer.
Anyway. I'm getting off topic!
I don't remember Genesis concerts "building." I remember them starting at 11 and staying at 11 for three straight hours, four nights in a row, the last time I saw them when I was just a wee lass.
I responded to BP's post. This time, pretty much on topic. Take a picture!
I *did* notice how he went to town on the drums. You know what else? The older I get, the more into drums (or drumming, if you will) I become. Not necessarily *the drummer* -- but, the drums. I like the sound.
I like when Phil gets all -- "Ah-ha-ha! Ah-ha-ha... Owwww"
I loved the way he used to get into it. And I'm sure Zelmo's right. Who couldn't resist 20,000 screaming fans!!
Is Tony Banks alive? I know he's not the most animated guy to have ever been on stage...but, can he move?
Thanks for the *hint* Zelmo.
Zelmo has seen them tour and gave this prediction: (I cannot access Zelmo's blog from BP's comment area. BP, drop the link in the comments here and I'll update my post.)
I predict the Genesis tour will consist of one "old" song followed by a "new" song throughout the set. This will please everyone, and no one.
BP countered my comment with this comment:
Well, Banks is as animated as he ever was.
Video of him from the seventies show him scowling down at the keyboards too.
By most reports, he's the one who is most critical of all musical elements of the band. If it's not perfect, he's pissed.
I always thought he was the most likely one to leave the band, cuz he never seemed to be having fun. AND he was never happy to be interviewed, that was the only time you could see him smile about what they were doing...
British reservationism, all that wot?
Oh, and I'm gonna call Zelmo on his prediction. What's defined as "old" and "new" songs? You can choose the point to fit your prediction. Besdies, all the songs are at least fifteen years old- they're all old, ain'a?
But here's the thing: there WILL be an "Old Medley" in which bits of all kinds of things will be thrown, mostly the old of which you speak. The beginning of the show will, of course, feature TIOA, then go into a couple of straightforward songs, then a longy like Home By The Sea or abacab. Then a few shorter ditties, then the more dramatic stuff. The Big Songs will come later, with lgiht show wow factor.
For a song mix, think "The Longs" combined with "The Shorts" with a bit less emphasis on the "we can't dance" albmu, becasue it's no longer current. I wouldn't be surprised to see a bit of emphasis on the middle four discs (the current remasters) but otherwise , I'd expect to see something, a bit off every album except "Trespass". If they play "the KNife" I'll eat my ticket.
Postulative Tracklist (in no fricking order):
Turn it On Again
No Son Of Mine
Land of Confusion
Throwing It All Away
Tongiht, Tonight, Tonight
Home By The Sea
abacab OR Dodo/Lurker BUT NOT BOTH.
Behind The Lines
Me & Sarah Jane
Firth of Fifth
Follow You Follow Me
Old Medley: Cinema Show/Dance On A volcano/The Lamb/The Musical Box/ I KNow what I Like/(abitofSupper'sready)/ Afterglow
Okay, they can't play all that. But I'll bet it covers the bases, I probably missed one or two. Can we all live with that? Cuz if not, I'll turn this car around...
And BG, all the misspellings in that post ARE JUST FOR YOU.
If they don't play Firth of Fifth though, I am going to hunt them all down and kill them.
Oh man. I never thought to make up my own song list. I'm going to be busy thinking about that now until September. I like BP's old picks. The new ones, obviously, I can live without hearing.
What's defined as "old" and "new" songs? You can choose the point to
fit your prediction. Besdies, all the songs are at least fifteen years
old- they're all old, ain'a?
You know what they are! I don't need to become more mentally scarred than I already am.
And that old medley? That would be okay. But, I'd rather they do this one all on its own.
2:15 in. A moment of universal importance.